NLP Life Training - 10 Years

Richard Bandler and NLP Modelling

Richard Bandler In His Own Words

The Best You run Masterclasses with some of the most talented and insightful agents of change in the world. A maximum of 20 delegates spend the day with the host, asking questions directly to get insights into specific questions.

In the extract from The Masterclass with Richard Bandler, Richard has just been asked by a client about the nature of "modelling excellence".


Richard: Wow, when you say modelling, did you say elegance or excellence?
Delegate:  That would be nice, elegant excellence too.
Richard: Well, modelling excellence is something that’s done by people like Claudia Schiffer. Modelling elegance is something that’s done by higher mathematicians. Those words are bandied around by NLP people a lot and I have the feeling they have no freaking idea what they’re talking about.

Modelling as a skill is a mathematical skill. This is where you take little pieces of behaviour or anything else. You build a calculus that represents what one person is doing so you could compute what else they would do if they lived to be 500. While Milton did all the things that he did and the things I saw him do and the things he described that he did, he didn’t see every kind of client, he didn’t use hypnosis in every situation and I didn’t watch him work for 70 years, I only watched him work for 3 or 4 weeks. I watched a bunch of films and I read some articles but by representing the way he used syntax, the way in which (he used) intonation and tempo, that was different from other people and worked out how he manipulated altered states with those things. I measured people's brain wave patterns, apply those patterns to find out how many states you could go into, to the point, where, when they did bring the films of Milton that I hadn’t seen before, by the time I watched part of it, I could predict what he was going to do. Just like you can predict that a bridge will last as opposed to fall down.
What a modeller does is try to take the minimum number of things to predict the maximum number of results - and that’s the concept of modelling elegance. I don’t know where that words "modelling excellence" came from. I think somebody misunderstood me one day when I said elegance. An excellent model would be one that works and if a model doesn’t work it’s a crappy model. We build models so that we can have something that we can use to generate behaviour from. I do it so we can break things into small pieces, train your unconscious to do it systematically, so people end up with a wider range of results. So, I can take somebody who’s a relatively mediocre hypnotist and I can give them a lot of skills that Milton had. They’ll never be just like him but they’ll get a wider range of results because they’re doing more things than they used to do in a more systematic way.
 What most people, I think, in the field of NLP have confused with modelling, is strategy elicitation. In the field of Neuro Linguistic Programming as opposed to the field of Design Human Engineering, one concentrates on modelling and you...  find somebody who spells well, you find out how they spell well and then you turn around and teach other kids to spell well. In Design Human Engineering you’re not looking for the minimum, you’re looking for the artistic application. Instead of putting one voice in your head, you might put a whole choir because it has a greater kinaesthetic impact that one is like being in that interior designer that designed the inside of this hotel and the other is like being the architect and the guy that came in and painted the walls white. One has a plain, dim room but it still functions and the other is a room that’s more fun to be in. When it comes to brains, I like the latter choice. 

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